First Cloud OS? Really?

[Edward Ned Harvey]

Anybody know why they're calling it "the first cloud os?"

Just cuz they wanted to throw in a buzzword?

[Pasi Kärkkäinen]

Post by Edward Ned Harvey
Anybody know why they're calling it "the first cloud os?"
Just cuz they wanted to throw in a buzzword?

Yeah.. and if the customer wants to run Solaris 11 on any IaaS Cloud service,
say on Rackspace cloud, or on Amazon EC2, they can't do it,
because Solaris support contracts are required, and they're priced
per *physical* sockets/servers!

So it's impossible to use Solaris elsewhere than on Oracle hw/sw.

That's not how things should be in 2011. Oracle should be selling
support contracts per instance as well.. (for VM/cloud use).

-- Pasi

[Edward Ned Harvey]

Post by Pasi Kärkkäinen
Solaris support contracts are required, and they're priced
per *physical* sockets/servers!

Holy crap, that's awesome! So it's like a joke we should all laugh at when
they call it the "first cloud os." I just wasn't getting the satirical
humor before. :-)

[Gary]

Post by Pasi Kärkkäinen
So it's impossible to use Solaris elsewhere than on Oracle hw/sw.

Have you looked at the Solaris subscriptions for non Oracle x86 hardware?
http://www.oracle.com/us/products/servers-storage/solaris/non-sun-x86-081976.html

[Edward Ned Harvey]

Post by Gary

Post by Pasi Kärkkäinen
So it's impossible to use Solaris elsewhere than on Oracle hw/sw.

Have you looked at the Solaris subscriptions for non Oracle x86 hardware?
http://www.oracle.com/us/products/servers-storage/solaris/non-sun-x86-
081976.html

Been there. Bought that. Never again.

Post by Gary
From now on, I'm either solaris on oracle hardware, or nexenta on whatever

they recommend, or ... I won't outrule openindiana, but I can't name any
specific platform I would accept right now.

[Calum Benson]

Post by Edward Ned Harvey
Anybody know why they're calling it "the first cloud os?"
Just cuz they wanted to throw in a buzzword?

Here's a short blog entry that attempts an explanation...
<http://blogs.oracle.com/drcloud/entry/what_s_a_cloud_operating>

Cheeri,
Calum.

[Ian Collins]

Post by Calum Benson

Post by Edward Ned Harvey
Anybody know why they're calling it "the first cloud os?"
Just cuz they wanted to throw in a buzzword?

Here's a short blog entry that attempts an explanation...
<http://blogs.oracle.com/drcloud/entry/what_s_a_cloud_operating>

Ah, so the full title should be "The First Cloud OS for Java
applications" :)

Just when we thought we were safe from the dreaded J word...

[Edward Ned Harvey]

Post by Ian Collins

Post by Calum Benson

Post by Edward Ned Harvey
Anybody know why they're calling it "the first cloud os?"
Just cuz they wanted to throw in a buzzword?

Here's a short blog entry that attempts an explanation...
<http://blogs.oracle.com/drcloud/entry/what_s_a_cloud_operating>

Ah, so the full title should be "The First Cloud OS for Java
applications" :)
Just when we thought we were safe from the dreaded J word...

To be fair, you could buy one solaris server, and run an infinite number of
zones in there. This is really no different from paravirtualization in
linux, but you have the advantages of ZFS and Crossbow. So from that
standpoint, I would acknowledge this as a cloud OS. But then so is solaris
10 and opensolaris and openindiana... ;-)

But a host based on solaris and zones, versus a linux machine with xen or
whatever... Sure, it's a solid competitor. "First cloud OS?" maybe not,
but whatever.